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Posted by MrGone (92se) on September 26, 2003 at 19:33:20: In Reply to: My idle is crappy, and its the VTC system. If I unground them its fine, if they are grounded,it is jumpy. posted by unsigned on September 26, 2003 at 16:48:30: I ungrounded them started it up and smoothness, although It sounds like a war zone. My sister said she wanted to cry because of the way it sounds. I then realized I didnt know if that fixed the sudden drop it always has whenever I first start the car (a quick 1500rpm to 500rpm back up again). I turned it off (ungrounded) and started it back up and it was normal! it idle'd smoothly, no fluxuations, woohoo! I grounded them again, and it has the crappy idle again! I've only heard of the VTC grounding causing a rough idle before, but it was a long time ago (over a year ago, and I think there was a bunch of other things wrong aswell). Does anyone else have this happen? Replys: Mine did that at first, but after a while it went away. --> Matt (93SE) 20:08:06 9/26/2003 (0) It was rough idle on day one with the ground for me. Also a huge performance drop. I'll be replacing them this winter. n/m unsigned (92SE/89GXE) 19:36:08 9/26/2003 (0)

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: I ungrounded them started it up and smoothness, although It sounds like a war zone. My sister said she wanted to cry because of the way it sounds. : I then realized I didnt know if that fixed the sudden drop it always has whenever I first start the car (a quick 1500rpm to 500rpm back up again). I turned it off (ungrounded) and started it back up and it was normal! it idle'd smoothly, no fluxuations, woohoo! I grounded them again, and it has the crappy idle again! : I've only heard of the VTC grounding causing a rough idle before, but it was a long time ago (over a year ago, and I think there was a bunch of other things wrong aswell). Does anyone else have this happen?