# wow.. very nice. Thanks Matt. ...

Posted by Aaron (92 SE Auto) on September 26, 2003 at 18:13:06: In Reply to: They will make a difference whether you burn out the old stuff or not --> posted by Matt on September 26, 2003 at 18:01:56: These mounts that i got are a little cracked and worn. On one of the mounts, the center bolt hole is broken completely off. But the bolt hole is still in position. But it's lose. The metal is a LITTLE rusted on the welds, but nothing to worry about. That's all. I'm only concerned about how hard installation will be. I'm sure you have tips. So will James. :) cough crossmember. :) If this project goes as planned, then I will probably pass my mounts on to someone that can use them. : The biggest issue is that there's no place for the rubber to squeeze to. you can compress air, right? Can you compress rubber? no. it's got to have a place to go. If you fill in the air holes on the engine mounts, you take away that place to go, so they don't flex nearly as much. : : BUT. you would be better off to remove the old rubber and fill it from scratch. : how I recommend doing it (after doing 8 mounts now).. : take a piece of wood and drill a hole the size of the center pin.. note how it sticks out a bit from the rubber. lay the mount down on the wood , with the pin in the hole. trace out the outer edge of the mount on the wood.... do it for both sides. : this wayyou know exactly where the pin is supposed to go back in once you remove it from the rubber. (notice it's not in the center of the mount).. : drill/burn/cut/grind out all the rubber and such, then place it in the "jig" you made with wood. somehow seal the bottom of it so the stuff doesn't ooze out. wax paper and duct tape work fairly well here. : once you've got it sealed, prop up the far end of the mount so it doesn't lean. pour the urethane in and then place some wax paper or saran wrap over the top again so the board won't stick, then line up the boards with the mount so you know the center pin is set correctly. now clamp that all that stuff together so it won't move and wait at least a day for it to cure before removeing the wood. : once it's cured for a day, you can pull the wood out and hope it cured properly (if you mix it wrong, it won't cure and will stay like tar. yuck.) then either bake it in the oven for a day, or let it cure for at least a week before mounting it on the car. Replys: Install isn't that hard. --> Matt (93SE) 18:26:09 9/26/2003 (4) I see. Where exactly did you support the engine? --> Aaron (92 SE Auto) 18:39:45 9/26/2003 (3) Yup.. board under oil pan. works great --> Matt (93SE) 18:53:16 9/26/2003 (2) Oh yeah, I'm doing my tranny mounts too. They might be a different story. n/m Aaron (92 SE Auto) 19:03:27 9/26/2003 (1) Nope.. swap the engine mounts, then you can pull the tranny mounts one at a time and swap them --> Matt (93SE) 20:00:56 9/26/2003 (0)

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: These mounts that i got are a little cracked and worn. On one of the mounts, the center bolt hole is broken completely off. But the bolt hole is still in position. But it's lose. : The metal is a LITTLE rusted on the welds, but nothing to worry about. That's all. : I'm only concerned about how hard installation will be. I'm sure you have tips. So will James. :) cough crossmember. :) : If this project goes as planned, then I will probably pass my mounts on to someone that can use them. : : : The biggest issue is that there's no place for the rubber to squeeze to. you can compress air, right? Can you compress rubber? no. it's got to have a place to go. If you fill in the air holes on the engine mounts, you take away that place to go, so they don't flex nearly as much. : : : : BUT. you would be better off to remove the old rubber and fill it from scratch. : : how I recommend doing it (after doing 8 mounts now).. : : take a piece of wood and drill a hole the size of the center pin.. note how it sticks out a bit from the rubber. lay the mount down on the wood , with the pin in the hole. trace out the outer edge of the mount on the wood.... do it for both sides. : : this wayyou know exactly where the pin is supposed to go back in once you remove it from the rubber. (notice it's not in the center of the mount).. : : drill/burn/cut/grind out all the rubber and such, then place it in the "jig" you made with wood. somehow seal the bottom of it so the stuff doesn't ooze out. wax paper and duct tape work fairly well here. : : once you've got it sealed, prop up the far end of the mount so it doesn't lean. pour the urethane in and then place some wax paper or saran wrap over the top again so the board won't stick, then line up the boards with the mount so you know the center pin is set correctly. now clamp that all that stuff together so it won't move and wait at least a day for it to cure before removeing the wood. : : once it's cured for a day, you can pull the wood out and hope it cured properly (if you mix it wrong, it won't cure and will stay like tar. yuck.) then either bake it in the oven for a day, or let it cure for at least a week before mounting it on the car.